PR vs PPP: who is winning the war?

I started writing this story just before the recent updates began on August 24th or thereabouts… Some facts have since changed (eg. my PR is now ZERO again!) This is a bit of a ramble because I’m tired. But then this issue has been around for months, and never seems to subside:

PPP vs. PR – Why PPP won’t drop PR any time soon or ever?

“…I did get my own PR back, though only a 2 compared with the three or four I used to have. I’m not exactly sure why I lost my PR in the first place, I think I had partially destroyed my PR in 2006 when I refounded my blog… My other blog is slowly regaining PR too, so even with PPP posts and not kowtowing to Godgle, it’s possible to have a PR. But certainly doing PPP can and usually does lead to PR0 so it’s no wonder that PPP constantly needs a new influx of PR rated blogs.

The thing is: PPP has been promising since LAST summer (2007) to remove PR from the rankings … I think all PPP’s bloggers know now that that isn’t going to happen any time soon. In fact, it is UNLIKELY it will happen IMHO, despite claims otherwise.

The reality is: PPP provides a lot of income while SS is still starting up. So it’s difficult for PPP to cut out one revenue stream while the other isn’t fully developed yet. PPP is slowly encouraging uptake of RR and alternatives to PR but without removing it from the options in the Advertisers section completely, the advertisers will still likely use it as a means to filter blogs.

If you blog because you like blogging, then do what’s best for your blog… accept or refuse PPP posts/links as you think fit. If you just blog for money, then you can keep feeding the demon by starting new blogs and repeating the process. In either case, don’t hold your breath waiting for PPP to remove PR requirements. They won’t do it to suit you, or me. They’ll do it to suit their own needs.”

Google’s Rank Spank: Part Deux

Well, it seems Google is doing that big dance again with its pagerank. Has it really affected me? In some ways, the answer is a resounding ‘yes/no’. Since November 2007, my blog income has become more stable since then, my traffic is up leaps and bounds, and my blog is improving in many ways! While income from companies like Payperpost is definitely on the wane, other sources are picking up to replace them. Hence, this justifies my belief: diversifying your income sources is VERY important both online and offline.

Have I given into Google’s demands on ‘nofollow’ links? Well, truthfully, I’ve been tempted to do so, but only mildly so. I’m too busy running the blog, developing my audience, and so on. I have considered giving in, but it’s just too complicated now to do so. I’d have to backtrack on promises I made to my advertisers, my own pride helps that to stick in my throat. So it’s a road I don’t want to travel.

Yes, I sell links

And yes, I’m still selling links. No, really, I do. I have done for ages, through text link ads, through my own sales, through PayPerPost, through paid posts, etc. I sell them simply and I choose NOT to add the rel=nofollow tag that Google virtually demanded everyone use because their search engine formulae weren’t upto snuff.

In reality, I don’t sell text links for PR. I sell them for traffic, for advertising, for people to check out on this blog and on others. I sell them so that advertisers pay me to cover my server costs, I sell them to earn a little extra money. If I had to rely on Adsense I’d be running ALL my blogs on Geocities instead simply because Adsense clicks have been very poor performers for me, across ALL my sites.

Links vs. Adsense

Also, I BELIEVE selling links is a far better model for most advertising purposes: it’s easier to track, easier to set up, virtually fraud proof, and very reliable. Using Google’s alternative method is (AdSense) is fraught with issues, including fraudulent clicks, banned accounts, optimizing the positions, quality scores, … the list goes on and on. Many bloggers have been burned by AdSense for fraudulent clicks or impressions, and many bloggers have lost all the monies in their account. For advertisers, click fraud is equally a huge problem: I’m not allowed to divulge how many clicks I don’t get credited for as an Adsense advertiser, but the number is significant. AdSense also takes up space, and typically when users don’t click, the website DOESN’T get much or any credit.

For Advertisers, clicks make sense

I also sell links for advertisers to garner traffic, and I believe selling text links is a lot less hassle than AdWords for advertisers. Why? Simply, you buy them once, and you forget about them until the subscription expires or renews. Users can click on them as many times as you like, you won’t experience click fraud. Really, text links are a much simpler form of advertising, and quite effective. You don’t have to play with your keywords, positioning, or watch your budget eaten up. Prices also don’t vary that much in a short time, on AdWords the prices of keywords seems to vary as the wind.

So, with a PR0, am I going to kowtow to Google this time? Unlikely, i think there will be a time when Google search engine is implicitly able to determine which links are paid and which are not, without any nofollow. I see little or no reason to change, esp. as Google sells links that transfer pagerank. Worse, if everyone nofollowed every link on their blog, as some bloggers and sites have done, it will make pagerank virtually useless. So, I’m not changing my ways; Google, if it wants to remain relevant simply has to figure out this issue for themselves.

PageRank: an intro, making money with PR, and recent controversy

Since yesterday’s post on Alexa and whether it really works , today we’re turning our attention to PageRank, though I hardly need to introduce it here. I’ve already written about it in a number of posts this past few months. You can search the archives to find out more about it

PageRank: Arbitrary but Worthy?

sample pr

By now, if any bloggers or visitors to this blog don’t know what PageRank (PR) is, I’d be surprised. In brief, Page Rank is supposed to measure the value of a page’s content by examining the number and types of pages that link to that. Pages are then assigned a value between 0 and 10. The numbers represent a logarithmic scale so that it is easier to go from 0 to 1 than from 7 to 8.

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There has been a lot of discussion of the actual formulae which are used to calculate PageRank, but most of the actual discussion is hypothetical in nature as the formulae are trade secrets. Additionally, some flaws have been discovered in the calculation that have allowed website SEO experts, who specialize in improving the SEO of websites in search engines like Google, to inflate (both legitimately and illegitimately) the page rank of their customers. Naturally, Google is concerned to protect the system, and regularly tweaks or enhances the formulae.

What is my PageRank? What is my worth?

Page Rank is not immediately obvious (like all metrics) to visitors but there are a number of websites, tools, and plugins that enable users to access this information through Google’s API. I’ve been a fan of several such tools, including SmartPageRank (which collates information from a number of sources as well). Indeed, there are a bunch of websites that also provide metrics that try to predict the value of future page ranks, as well. While it’s not difficult to find out your website’s PageRank, the value that most people know of is the Toolbar PR, that is typically a historical weighting, and is only made available about every three months or in Google’s own time. Real PageRank is a dynamic system, that is continually being updated as Google crawls the web and updates its own database.

PR CAN be bought – at a price

And Google often tries to remind webmasters that PageRank is something that a good website has, but it can’t be acquired. In reality, though, it can. Despite the best efforts of Google, the war of skills that has taken shape between the PhDs in Google and the SEO experts proves that, if you have enough money and contacts, you can DEFINITELY influence your PR ranking. Google has warned that it will crack down on what it sees as deliberate manipulations of its proprietary rankings many times. But that has done almost nothing to stop the practices. Instead it simply raises the prices of such services and the rewards to those who keep or attain a higher PR.

Worse, many advertisers and intermediary companies rely to a greater or lesser extent on the Toolbar PR as a way to measure a site’s worth or value. Hence, for Text Link Ads, for example, they typically are interested in website’s with a PR2+ and some traffic. Other companies require a PR3 or PR4 as a minimum.

And what about the bloggers?

Some companies that provide advertising services have recently started using blogs (and other types of websites) as a way to advertise for traffic and SEO benefits. So those companies have developed products that use text links, sponsored posts, and other advertising methods and they have adopted page rank as a metric in evaluating the pricing of advertising (including text links, paid posts, and so on) either solely as Payperpost used to, or in concert with several other metrics (as Text Link Ads currently does).

The following is a list of some companies that have used PageRank at one time or another either as a sole metric or combined with one or several other metrics:

Payperpost&, ReviewME&, Sponsored Reviews&, Smorty*, Text Link Ads#, LinkWorth#, Blogitive *, Blogsvertise&, PayU2Blog*, Loudlaunch*… (see disclaimer for more information).

I’ll highlight several of those companies with whom I have an ongoing relationship to show how PR is still being used: Text Link Ads, Payperpost and LinkWorth.

#1 – Text Link Ads

Text Link Ads has a page that outlines the approximate values that different page rankings have and the earnings potential for those sites.

tla information

The Text Link Ads company also has a calculator page that can help to evaluate the monetary value of your blog by using PR and ad position. Unfortunately, it was not available at the time of this blog posting. But you can usually link to it at TLA Ads Calculator . But I have a screenshot that showed what it used to look like.

tla calculator

In fairness, Text Link Ads also use several other factors, including Alexa to evaluate the worth of a page’s links in its marketplace.

#2 – Payperpost

Payperpost is more discrete, but once a blogger becomes a member, his or her blog(s) will be recorded as having a set PR value and posts (known as ‘opps’) in the system will be opened to him or her according to the PR requirements of the advertiser. Advertisers may or may not require a minimum level of PR, and prices will be ‘varied’ according to the PR required. PR0-2 blogs may find opps that pay from $5 to $10, while PR3-4 blogs may say more opps with prices as high as $20. PR5+ blogs can see significantly higher prices.

ppp opp screen

Once you are in the system, all the blog information is kept in the ‘my blogs’ page and the PageRank is displayed conspicuously. See…

ppp inside screen

There is a similar page in the advertiser’s area that allows advertisers to specify PageRank: Take a look.

ppp segmentation

Though Technorati ranking has now gone, other rankings and segmentation features have been added, including regions, continents, age, gender, REALRank, etc.. And many advertisers do not particularly care about PageRank or select it preferring to have as wide a range of blogs linking as possible.

#3 – LinkWorth

LinkWorth is a company that for me has been a dark horse, as business is picking up slowly with them. LinkWorth offer a variety of products, such a variety that it is difficult to compare them to any of the other companies: text links, posts, adverts, banners, to name but a few of their options .

When webmasters sign up for the program, they are required to enter their websites in the database. The websites are then displayed for customers and you can click on the ‘stats’ to see the MOST complete set of stats of any of the three sites in this discussion. LinkWorth not only displays Google, Yahoo, and MSN stats, but also Alexa, DMOZ, AND their own LinkRank stat.

linkworth

Recent Controversy

Of course, the past three months have seen the so-called Page Rank smackdown or bitchslap that somewhat arbitrarily (and unfairly) penalized the PageRank of many prominent bloggers and many not-so-well-known Payperpost Bloggers (et al.). This re-ranking is still going on at this time as Google is updating its results for January 2008. Of course, this has evoked a huge reaction in the Blogosphere and long discussions in Problogger and Matt Coutts blog that has included the ‘pros’, the ‘cons’ and the hypocrisies of all involved. It’s fascinating reading for those who have time. One thing is sure: PageRank is a proprietary formula, and Google is determined that it will succeed in protecting both the formula and the results it creates; in addition, it will seek to try to disrupt the markets that use the PageRank as a way to make money. Of course, that is Google’s right. But whether Google goes, will the market no follow?

On a personal note , in 2006 this site had a PR of 5, which was before I moved the site to a new location and refounded InvestorBlogger in August last year. Since then it lost its PR ranking moving from 5 to 4 to 3 as the links dried up. Then in one fell swoop, just as it was looking like it was going to be a PR4, it was manually dropped to a zero by Google. Oh,well.

In truth, I could litter this post with any of the hundreds of good discussions out there on PageRank and no-follow, but I will let you simply follow some of the good discussions by asking you to share any that you find in the comments section itself. Do you care about PageRank? What do you think about buying PageRank or selling PR? Share your reactions here.

Good Discussions: Pro, Cons and More…

Problogger Search Results
Google Goes After PPP
Turning a ‘-‘ into a ‘+’
Getting PR back
How to report paid links

and more…

In the competitive Web-o-sphere, a competitor is a click away, and in the third in the series published on Tuesday, we’ll be looking at Technorati. Then on Wednesday, we’ll turn our attention to the newcomer on the block, IZEA’s REALRank .

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Originally published with the wrong date. Why does WordPress do that? It’s very annoying. Date and a few links added.

And now it’s time for a Disclaimer: I’ve joined all of these companies but those highlighted with a ‘*’ have never provided any useful work for me. Those highlighted with a ‘&’ have been more successful, but I’ve not done much work in the past three months for them for various reasons, including poor rates, insufficient opps and poor quality advertisements. While those with a ‘#’ mean that I’m still working with them on a regular basis.
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How DID being dependent on GOOGLE change our blogging?

So How DID being dependent on GOOGLE change our blogging?

I’ve been pondering this for a few days, and while many of us were reluctant to give into Google’s demands on ‘no_follow’, while they could wave the PR stick over our heads, we were all of us giving into their requirements in many ways. Once you think about it, it is quite shocking:

1. Getting rid of multiple links so we could get out of THEIR secondary catalogs,
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Adsense problems, low click throughs, and Fraud,
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the lack of an even hand,
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everchanging PR rankings, algorhythms, what you can do and can’t do,
5. Sitemaps
6. Removing Duplicates (except Google’s search engine was too dumb to realize they weren’t duplicates)
7. … I can go on, if you want…

I’m sure I’ll be returning to this theme in a future posting, but you can think about it anyway! How has Google changed your attitude to blogging? Do you think it’s for the better or worse?